Middle Earth: Shadow Of War‘s trailers so far have ranged from interesting to cringe-worthy. But those are just on the internet right? It’s okay to have a laugh with your property when you’re just showing things off to fans. We love a good joke as much as the next guy and as much as the pimp orcs were terrible we at least got a chuckle out of the absurdity.

Not so much with the new TV spots for the game. You can see the worst of the two advertisements above, and watch the second one via this link. Let us know what you think in the comments.